14 May, 2012

Geek Furious the Podcast Episode 22 - Game of Thrones 2.07, Banging in the Womb


Jess and HGF discuss the latest episode of GOT. There are also several outtakes at the end so catch those.

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15 comments:

  1. Another nice job. I liked it more than you guys seem to have. Although, I have to agree with Jess about the pointless lead up to the House of the Undying.

    On that subject, I've been pretty o.k. with most of the changes from the books, but I'm not really loving the change in Cersei. Book Cersei is WAY more fucked up than Show Cersei. Maybe that doesn't give us some of the more subtle character moments Sarah Connor has brought to the role, but it's certainly a lot more fun.

    Jim

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    1. My biggest disappointing comes from that long sequence in the jail cell that I view as silly in the grand scheme of things. If it was written like that in the book, then I'd also consider it a misstep in GRRM's writing.

      Once I get to the books, it should make the podcast a bit more interesting. I suspect next season's podcast will be far more critical.

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    2. This episode seem to have more material that wasn't in the book that some of the others.

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  2. It's been a long time, but I seem to recall Jon's capture going quite a bit differently, unless they do that next episode. Since it sets the tone for some things to come, I wonder where they are going.

    Regarding Jaime, again it's been a long time, but I believe that whole sequence was made up for the show. None of it happened at all. Lord Karstark's son(s?) was killed in battle by Jaime before he was captured the first time, not during some bizarre escape attempt. Jaime did not kill his cousin at all.

    Jim

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    1. I was beginning to worry about my boy, GRRM. What you describe, even from bad memory, sounds far more likely and less TV showy.

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    2. I finished the book just before the season started. Jaime was hardly in the book. I knew they would have to invent some stuff.

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    3. Well, once this season ends, I will most likely dive into the books. Though, not sure I will go beyond book 2. Depends on whether or not I feel a NEED for answers.

      Though, with two books in the series left to be written, it is a ten year commitment to WAIT.

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  3. The whole thing with Jaime is to provide extra character development.

    It was to show that he's an evil dumb ass that doesn't think about his actions beforehand.

    It's the same thing with Joffrey killing Ned Stark and then Tyrion pointed out afterwards that he shouldn't have been killed but used as a bargaining chip.

    So both Jaime and Joffrey share a genetic link as father and son of being evil dumb asses.
    That makes sense.

    Another thing was before Rob was just holding Jaime as leverage but i don't think they were planning on killing him yet even though he pushed Bran out the window.

    Now the father of the kid Jaime killed wants him dead which is just one more thing that puts Catelyn at odds with Rob's plans.

    It creates a conflict between them again.

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    1. No one is confused about why it was shown... but is it good writing?

      Nope.

      Because it makes Jaime seem dumb. And Jaime isn't dumb. Joffrey behaves the way he does because he has ultimate power and a lack of role-model direction.

      Jaime wouldn't do what he did because it makes no sense to kill someone loyal to him when he could just as easily have used him in other ways. And the fact that it didn't happen in the book speaks volumes about why it didn't work for me.

      It doesn't make sense.

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    2. The only problem with all that is that the conflict, including the pissed-offedness of the Karstarks, existed in the books without the forced plot stupidity. Maybe the show runners thought the way it was handled in the books wasn't dramatic enough or something. I tend to think they are selling their audience short if that's the reasoning.

      Incidentally, while Cersei is far less sympathetic in the books, Jaime is marginally more sympathetic. He isn't a psychopath like Joffrey, or at least not cruel by nature. He's just a not too bright, sometimes well-meaning guy who is good with a sword and motivated almost entirely by love/lust for his hot sister. That evolves as things go along, but it's definitely where he starts.

      Jim

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    3. And I think that came across in this episode. He kind of wants to do the right thing... but doing the right thing is hard to do when so many people dislike what you do. ;)

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  4. I don't know but on the game of thrones facebook account they have previews that say Season 2 Episode 16 so does this mean there is a part 2 for season 2 or not

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    1. Some people are counting the episodes without the season number. So in the whole series this is episode 16. But sounds like the facebook peeps combined the two counting methods, which obviously doesn't work. :)

      -Jess

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    2. This was episode 2.07, making it episode 17.

      16 was last week.

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